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Tuesday, January 25, 2005

Young Talent In the Ranks

This carry-over story from last year just won't go away. Three young apprentice footballers caused a night of mayhem and public violence in December, 2001 at Melbourne's Federation Square. The main media interest was the involvement of Kade Carey - nephew of Wayne Carey, the Slogger from Wagga (an appellation relating to his weakness for slogging it to his teammates' wives).

From The Age story last year:

[T]hey were approached by up to five security guards patrolling the precinct, and a fight broke out.

Two of the guards went to hospital with serious injuries including eye socket, nose and wrist fractures.

Police used capsicum spray to overpower and arrest the trio, during which Carey allegedly assaulted one of the officers.

Yeah, nice.

Here's the posse leaving court today:

It seems that Dane Swan, left, Kade Carey and Aaron Ramsay weren't content with a traditional serve of football drink'n'biff. No, what makes this crew stand out is the manner in which the altercation started.

Lauren Marriner, the driver of the vehicle, told police that she saw three men standing on the side of Flinders Street. Then one of them ran at her car.

"As I got closer to the males, I slowed down so I wouldn't hit them. As I was still moving slowly, the larger guy ran at my car, ran onto the bonnet and jumped on my windscreen 'body slam' style," Ms Marriner told police.

Carey, 21, is charged with intentionally destroying property, that being Ms Marriner's windscreen. He also faces 16 other charges relating to an alleged brawl with security staff in the square.

Swan, 20, faces 13 charges that include intentionally causing injury and assault by kicking. Ramsay, 22, is charged with recklessly causing serious injury and intentionally causing serious injury. (The Age)

What the hell is going on? This guy apparently just charged the windscreen of a passing girl's car!

Was this some sort of ploy to get the ladies' attention?

Or a case of misidentification of a taxi followed by an entirely reasonable effort at hailing it in the notorious Fed Square rank?

Please submit your own ideas as to why an adult man would hurl himself at a slowly-moving vehicle ... other than to say "Yep - he's a professional AFL footballer, alright".

*** UPDATE ***

Must be sobering to face charges in court for hospitalising other people. Not for these three tools; it's time for more intimidation and smirking:

Magistrate Charlie Rozencwajg asked Kade Carey to move seats in court 17 at Melbourne Magistrates Court and stop intimidating Vanessa Denami as she sat in the witness box.

"I'd like you not to eyeball the witness when she is giving evidence . . . it's not right," Mr Rozencwajg said.

Mr Rozencwajg also told Carey, 21, and his two co-accused, Aaron Ramsay, 22, and Collingwood defender Dane Swan, 20, to stop smirking during the hearing. Swan spent much of the afternoon session swigging on a water bottle. (The Age)

These thugs should find it easy to get sponsors for charcoal suits, hair gel and sunnies because we're going to be seeing a lot more of them dressed like that than in football guernseys.

Citations: The Age; The Age

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  • Well it just goes to show what money and good looks can do a man's head. It's a shame that Kade has to cast a slur on his uncle's name, I don't care what anyone says about Wayne, he's a great footy player and a genuinely nice person!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:25 pm, May 16, 2005  

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  • *lol*

    Are saying that someone could cast a slur on Wayne Carey's name?

    Oh, wait a sec: Wayne ... is that you?

    Well, in any case, genuinely nice people don't go for a quickie with their colleagues' wives in the dunnies, while at a friend's birthday party. (See the Sydney Morning Herald.)

    Nor do they give character evidence in trials for known murderers and gangsters. (See MelbourneCrime.)

    And they certainly don't grab young students' breasts while out on the town and say "Why don't you get a bigger set of tits?" (See GreenLeft.)

    There are numerous other fights, sexual assaults and pay-outs documented throughout his career.

    He's not a genuinely nice person. He maybe a talented footballer but that's hardly the same thing.

    By Blogger Greg, at 4:48 pm, May 16, 2005  

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  • This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

    By Blogger shae18, at 6:20 pm, June 05, 2005  

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  • We had an interesting post (above) allegedly from Ms. Shae Ramsay, sister of aforementioned footy, um, professional Aaron Ramsay. Unfortunately, Ms. Ramsay decided to delete her piece and, being a gentleman, I won't copy'n'paste it back without her permission.

    How about it Shae, do you feel like going public (again) with your remarks?

    I do make the following general points:

    1) I'm not a journalist, I'm a blogger; you know, like Shae herself (check out her blog "Ur All Idiots" at So, I'm not in competition with Murdoch's Herald-Sun, and I'm not at all surprised that a lot more people choose to read that than this blog.

    2) If there is stuff going on that's not making its way to the courts, please share your special inside knowledge here, and I'll make sure it gets to the relevant authorities.

    BTW - how did the court case pan out for your brother? Did those causing serious injury charges stick?

    By Blogger Greg, at 8:05 pm, June 05, 2005  

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  • yeh i got pleanty to say i deleted my comment as i realised after i posted that that u actually wernt a reporter, but now judgeing by what u had to say proves that your no better than reporters.. what kind of personal satisfaction do u get from being a "blogger". you obviously have alot of time on your hands for you to have to result in posting comments on a website about my brother, cousin and his friend.. who are you to pass judgements on people you dont know, its nothing but pathetic. and why should i inform you of what i know about the case, it has absolutly nothing to do with you. go find something more productive to do with your time... like watch the grass grow

    By Blogger shae18, at 1:45 am, June 18, 2005  

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  • Thanks for posting, Shae. I see we disagree on some fundamental points.

    1) So, I'm no better than a reporter? Well, I won't dispute you on that one.

    2) Yes, I get satisfaction from blogging - in fact I have four! (Yes, I do have a lot of spare time.) Check out my homepage. Shae, you also have a blog and post on other people's blog, so you're no stranger to the giddy joys of internet publishing.

    3) Is this a productive use of my time? Well, it's about an hour a month - hardly a crippling burden. I think there are millions of words written and said about footballers, and about 99% of that is positive. Someone needs to look at them with a critical eye to balance out all the ridiculous praise and adulation they get.

    4) It is up to the courts of law to pass judgement on your brother and his mates. If people are going to hurl themselves onto passing cars and publicly gang-bash and hospitalise people, they have to expect negative publicity. Not to mention jail time.

    What's the alternative? That people can commit assault and it's kept secret? That we have trials where the public can't comment? If they didn't want to be scrutinised by journos and bloggers, they should have kept out of trouble.

    5) If you know things about the case, I urge you to come forward and tell your brother's lawyer. Don't tell me. Tell the court. If your brother is decent man who got caught up in a bad situation, not of his making, then the court will find that out. If he's a violent thug who bashes people when he gets drunk - the court will find that out too.

    I hope that justice is served on July 20th.

    By Blogger Greg, at 12:46 pm, June 18, 2005  

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  • greg you're a tossa.put down ya pen and pick up ya dildo and keep slamming it up ya rectum.may god be with you and your torn rectum

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:56 pm, November 02, 2005  

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  • Thanks for the expression of concern about the welfare of my rectum. I assure you it's fine and not in need of divine intervention.

    Got anything to add about the Swan/Carey/Ramsay gang bashing case? Where's that up to now - County Court?

    You're one of the most-literate posters we've had here, so your views would be welcome. (Hell, you don't even have to put your name to it, if you're too ashamed!)

    By Blogger Greg, at 2:32 pm, November 02, 2005  

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  • As you know dude, I disagree with your one sidedness but I think its important that you have the freedom to say it and when you say it, its available for people to have their own thoughts and say (even if you play funny buggers with your alledged tip/Shutup jar, IMHO).

    On this note, I just thought that I would let you know, when I come to your site (even via your other webpage) I only get the Jan 4th post as being the most recent. If I click on the Jan link I get all your posts but not on the main page.

    Perhaps this has to do with the date you have for it.

    Just thought you should know.
    My AFL Podcast:

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:42 am, January 10, 2006  

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  • Thanks, Molly, for the concern and your Voltairesque attitudes to free speech!

    I'm not sure what the problem is though - January 4th 2006 is the last post.

    In my Archives, if you click January 2005 (ie last year) you'll see additional posts. Is that what happened? It could be a bit confusing since the archive is not reverse-sorted. Will rectify that.

    Thanks for the heads up!

    By Blogger Greg, at 11:59 am, January 10, 2006  

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  • By the way, your comments feature sucks as well as there are comments not showing up either!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:47 am, January 11, 2006  

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  • Well, Molly, I can only work with the tools blogger gives me. Unless you're referring to your blogspam I deleted?

    In any case, I just headed over to your blog and you seem to be similarly afflicted! No comments at all for months and months! What's going on there?

    By Blogger Greg, at 11:46 am, January 11, 2006  

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  • By way of follow up to this story, the three shits have been "sentenced" in the County Court ... and got off with just 100-200 hours of community work! (Kade Carey also copped a $3000 fine and a two-month suspended sentence.)

    No jail for these knobs, despite their sickening crimes.

    By Blogger Greg, at 1:25 am, February 13, 2006  

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  • blogger or whatever your name is, your probably the gayest cunt i have encountd in my 5 minutes on your site. im sure u wouldnt say these things to these blokes faces as you realise you would cop the same tretment as the security guards did. also i hear you have a small penis. this i do not blame you for. the bloke your mum was screwing around with probably had a small willy to. in aconclusion, you sound like a real doodle enjoyer, this is constructive critisism, so dont take offence. also, one more thing, i heard your dad touched you when u were young. catch fag

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:18 am, February 25, 2006  

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  • Nice comment. Let's see: hateful, homophobic, profane, threatening, new to the internet, illiterate and illogical.

    Which team do you play for?

    By Blogger Greg, at 2:26 am, February 25, 2006  

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  • Hi, have never seen these blogs before but stumbled across yours after googling the Ben Cousins incident.

    I must say, I am impressed! I could not agree more! Footballers - and often sporting folks in general - are given an incredible amount of misguided and unwarranted adulation in our society, and for what reason?

    I saw/heard the long-haired lout from Carlton speak recently (the one with the dreadies, whatever his name is) and honestly, it was pathetic beyond imagining. The first word out of his mouth, despite the presence of many children as young as 10, was "F...", he was crude and vulgar. I was embarrassed for him. To top it off, despite his engagement, he was all over some 18 year old Miss-thing.

    I am adding your blog to my 'favorites' and coming back to check it every time another footballer hits the airwaves, cause let's face it, it WILL happen.

    Wake up Australia!! Playing a sport should NOT entitle one to act the buffoon, and it certainly should not make them above the law.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:49 am, March 02, 2006  

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  • Thanks for the message of support.

    It's a tough, thankless work that is not without risks, so I appreciate this kind of feedback.

    In fact, I'm always looking out for leads and story ideas, so feel free to send them in.



    ps If you find it more convenient, you can subscribe to the AFL Player Spectator through a newsreader (RSS) or as email. Just enter your email address into the form on the bottom right.

    By Blogger Greg, at 2:29 am, March 02, 2006  

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  • I just stumbled accross your site and the thing that I find most interesting is ease with which one can determine which of your comments were written by a footballers or their sisters.
    I think it is fair to assume that anything that starts with 'wanker' and ends with 'get a life' was not written by a scholar.

    You are touching on raw nerves here in a town where the Herald-Scum is the bible and AFL players are gods. Keep it up...brilliant work.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:26 pm, March 22, 2006  

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  • I agree that AFL players, in general are overpaid etc but I have to say that most of them seeem to manage to behave properly. As usual it is the morons that give the rest a bad name. While I am at it - what about the big bucks earned by athletes for doing what they enjoy. Should those who attend any Institute of Sport or get training not available to the rest of us have to pay the money back like any other student?

    By Blogger Gameyuk, at 11:56 am, March 29, 2006  

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  • I think all AFL players are massively overpaid. They should train and play for the love of the game, and work during the week to pay rent. It worked for decades and produced great footballers. Now we have drug-addled rapists running around, putting their names to ghost-written newspaper articles and endorsing products left, right and center. Progress?

    Yes, millionaire athletes who benefit from public support should have to pay into a fund for upcoming talent. It's obcene that they can get away with taking our money like that. Especially if they subsequently move to tax-havens so that they're not even paying tax here. (Yeah, that's right, I'm talking about YOU Pat Rafter! Shame on you.)

    But, Australians love our sport. We'd happily sell the shirts of our backs to be represented by Pol Pot and Idi Amin - if there was the slightest chance they could bring home a medal in the squash doubles.

    By Blogger Greg, at 12:13 pm, March 29, 2006  

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  • lol well greggy, i do recall u telling me u hope justice was served... id say it was a very good outcome for the three, and i hope it was much to your dismay. go get a life u tosser

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:01 pm, April 09, 2006  

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  • Hmmm, which anonymous coward were you again? I forget. (Judging by your lack of punctuation and use of the word "tosser", I've got a good idea. That earlier remark earned you a spot in my Well-Wishers sidebar!)

    Anyway, I can't say I'm massively cut up about violent thugs copping a soft sentence in Old Melbourne Town. You don't need an Arts degree to realise that the legal system is designed to serve the famous, wealthy and powerful. Even B-grade footballers make the list in this footy-obsessed place.

    Too bad for the cleaners and bouncers who were hospitalised by out-of-control bogans.

    By Blogger Greg, at 5:46 pm, April 09, 2006  

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  • Just had a comment posted by someone alleging to be "JASON D'RAZIO" who claimed to have played footy with these knuckle-draggers.

    I had to delete the comment because of the "interesting" (ie legally actionable) claims contained within.

    There actually is a guy called "Jason D'Orazio" who played with (at least) Kade Carey. However, given that our poster didn't use an account (ie was anonymous) and misspelled his own name, I'm gonna need some more proof of identity before I can let these remarks stand.

    How about it, Jason? Wanna establish your bona fides?

    By Blogger Greg, at 9:55 pm, April 17, 2006  

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  • well, i won't resort to the hateful, or homophobic banter that your esoteric, narrow-minded, yet slightly humorous quabblings that tag all footballers as thugs has become magnetised to, but I do find it ironic that now Dane Swan is among Collingwood's best every week; and it appears charcoal suits, sunnies and bargain-basement hair gel could be a 2nd priority for good ol' #36.. because the man is a star now, regardless of how many eye sockets got broken. Guess there's no justice hey?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:53 pm, May 22, 2006  

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  • Oh and let's all shed a tear for those heartfelt, daisy picking, charity donating, sick kid hugging, fairy floss licking, chivalry abiding, romantic novel reading, hand holding, "land before time" DVD buying, celebate-til-marriage bouncers across australia that do nothing but PICK fights, allow hot girls to enter unduly, perve at breasts and amaze me by how they can obliviously incorporate more cuss words than "the slim shady LP" in an everyday sentence, relevant to nothing at all. Defending bouncers over footballers, is like defending terrorists over george bush and john howard. Oh wait up, "billy" smokers all over this barren land ARE like that. sorry.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:04 pm, May 22, 2006  

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  • As an addendum to the Kade's a top bloke saga in Jan 2002 in Wagga he was so upset that a security guard intervened in his beating of a person that he fetched his dad Dick and his mates to come out to the club he had been refused entry to and sort the guard out. In the melee that occurred one guard was knocked unconscious and another had his teeth knocked out. The Police arrived and told those nice Carey boys and their bully mates to move on. Nil arrests in spite of even the protests of the younger officers (one officer a woman missed by a hair having Dick's fist in her ear when he kept punching a victim who was down that she was trying to protect) Later on after the crew had caused another melee outside another pub(apparently the first site was the wrong one) they were given a lift home by the Police. Only after the families of victims protested right through the Police to the local member and relevant minister were these legends charged. Even those matters were a hit with a feather duster.

    Luckily one of the victims has had the courage to sue these gutless wonders for damages. However that has not stopped Dick. He was charged with intimidate a witness recently.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:26 am, September 18, 2006  

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  • Last Carey point. I don't consider this a slur because Wayne could make the ball talk. I reckon that poor Wayne may be gay with elements of self loathing. As a man who could have a rich sexual life without causing any strife why did he make such an cry for attention by disporting himself with his friend's wife. It seems that if you want people to know what a stud you are regardless of the hurt you cause then you cannot have any real confidence in your heterosexuality. May he come to peace with himself.

    I look forward to the reaction.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:32 am, September 18, 2006  

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