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Friday, May 19, 2006

Profile: Wayne Carey

Wayne Carey was a supremely-talented footballer who's off-field behaviour and character flaws saw him brought down like a modern, shabby Shakespearean tragedy. In this next instalment in the Speccy Profile series, we examine the life and times of Wayne Carey as more evidence for our case that being good at footy does not make you a good human being.

No one would deny that Wayne Carey in his heyday was like the Mike Tyson of Aussie Rules football: fast, strong, aggressive and blighted with a curiously high-pitched voice. He was born in Wagga Wagga in 1971 and began his footy career in South Australia before being picked up by North Melbourne. (Although hailing from NSW, Wayne was allowed to represent South Australia in the State of Origin on the grounds that, as King of the Westies, Adelaide was his spiritual home.) His family background suggests a genetic talent for football - despite one leg being longer than the other - and being a prick, with his nephew Kade Carey attracting all the wrong sort of attention.

Wayne played for the Kangaroos for most of career and despite being quite dim managed to rise to the rank of captain and secure a number of honours including club Best and Fairest and captaincy of the All-Australian team. (This hardly reflects well on the honours, does it?) His arrogance and abrasiveness meant that field umpires withheld crucial votes, ensuring he never won the game's highest honour, the Brownlow Medal.

Gormless Rooboy Caught in the Headlights

Off-field, he was involved in the usual pub brawling and fighting associated with footballers. He also seemed strangely well-connected to Melbourne's underworld, giving character evidence at the trial of one high-profile (later slain) hitman, drug dealer and gangster (Melbourne Crime's dossier on Wayne makes for interesting reading.)

But it was with the ladies that Wayne Carey had the most problems. The first incident that saw him cop a high-profile guilty plea was back in 1996:

The assault occurred when Carey and a group of friends were walking down King Street after a night out [at 9am]. They approached the woman, who was with a female friend. Carey grabbed her breast and said, "Why don't you get a bigger set of tits?".

Carey's two footballer friends argued: "That sort of thing happens a hundred times a night in a night club. I'm not saying I condone it but ... I've seen how blokes act with women." The article later stated that the general view amongst Carey's colleagues was that he had been victimised by the media because he is a high profile football star.(Green Left Weekly, 19/2/1996)

Thanks to that special brand of justice reserved by Melbourne's magistrates for star footballers, he managed to avoid a sentence, or even a conviction! We can't help but wonder if this signal - that he can sexually assault women in broad daylight and get away with it - might not have contributed to what was to follow.

In March 2002, it became apparent to his club that Wayne was carrying on an affair with Kelli Stevens, the wife of his team-mate Anthony Stevens. Lurid rumours circulated that the pair were caught having sex in the toilets (a "dunny shag" in the vernacular) at a mutual friend's birthday party. Wayne was keen to set the record straight:

"No, there was definitely no sex in the toilet. The situation was in front of 120 people. I went to the toilet and, in front of all those people, Kelli walked in after me in front of her husband, in front of everyone there. Anthony waited for her to come out, which was a few seconds later, and the night was ended." (The Sydney Morning Herald, 28/12/2002)

At this point, the Roo Boys staged what amounted to a mutiny: either Carey (club captain) was out, or the team wouldn't take to the field. Management relented, and just like that, Wayne's career was over. He went from earning a reported $1.5 million dollars a year to being "on suicide watch" (as his manager, Ricky Nixon, famously stated) home at Wagga Wagga. The saga played out in the nations tabloids for months. Wayne, his wife Sally, Anthony and Kelli Stevens all helped boost circulation figures for various women's magazines with their contributions.

After this, Wayne tried (unsuccessfully) to re-launch his career in North America as a punter in the NFL. He mooched around for the rest of the year and signed up with the Adelaide Crows. Things didn't work out, and he only played 27 games for his new club. No doubt his new-found team-mates weren't thrilled at the prospect of having such a man in their midst. They came up with some sort of line about injuries and bundled him out of the game for good. The sad sack that he is, Wayne pathetically did free "volunteer" work at various clubs, fetching towels and the like, just to be near the action. Now his girly voice graces a little-watched football show on pay TV, providing monosyllabic sound bites (known as "special comments" in the trade).

It's difficult to convey the impact of the Carey-Stevens affair on the Melbourne psyche. It was the story of the year. As one talkback caller put it: "September 11th last year ... and now this." It was simply that big a deal. (Not sleeping around, mind you; but doing so with a team-mate's wife.) Wayne became "The Slogger from Wagga" (because of his predilicition for slogging it to other people's wives). He is still the butt of many jokes and remains a favourite target of cartoonists. Which is probably why many were not surprised at one comes next.

Almost unbelievably, Sally Carey put aside the shame, humiliation and advice from everyone and agreed to take the philandering Wayne back. What's more, they started a family. However, Wayne's true colours shone through when rumours of more infidelity were confirmed. Wayne admitted that his marriage was over while his wife was heavily-pregnant with their first child:

Carey confirmed the split in a statement yesterday as reports continued to surface about his friendship with model Kate Neilson, 24.
She and Carey live only minutes apart in Port Melbourne and have been seen visiting each other's homes. Carey went public on his marriage split yesterday after his father-in-law warned him to stay away.
A smiling Carey, 34, shrugged off the turmoil as he arrived in Darwin yesterday. The former Roos champion laughed off a warning by his father-in-law Terry McMahon that he would be "going out in a box" if he visited Mr McMahon's Wagga Wagga home where Sally was staying.

"It's all funny," Carey said. "Don't worry about it." (Herald-Sun, 24/6/2006)

Kate Neilson (pictured below) is what's known as a "Grid Girl". This means her job is to promote motorsports by appealing sexually to bogans. So good is she at making bogans aroused that she won a national competition - and attention from Wayne "The Bogan King" Carey.

Source: Herald-Sun

What sort of a man gropes a woman in broad daylight and insults her for not pleasing him visually? What sort of a man shags his team-mate's wife? What sort of a man hangs out with killers and drug-dealers? What sort of a man cheats on his heavily-pregnant wife with bleached-blonde bogan-bait?

One of the greatest Aussie Rules Footballers ever, that's who. A washed up, hollow, balding failure of a human being at 34. A man remembered for the staggering price he paid for believing that he could do whatever he want. Truly, Wayne Carey is the quintessential footballer.

*** UPDATE ***

BREAKING NEWS: Reports are coming in that last night (Sunday) Wayne Carey was "maced" by police after they were called to a domestic disturbance at his Port Melbourne apartment. Details are sketchy, but The Age quotes a neighbour "It was Wayne all right. Look, I'm not gonna give too much away, but Wayne was in handcuffs and had been maced." The Hun reports that "Police took him to St Kilda police station about 8.30pm."

It appears at this stage that Carey called police to remove his girlfriend, Kate Neilson (pictured working as "grid girl" above). Police stated that a second woman was present, but no details yet to the sequence of arrivals to Carey's place.

It's too early to judge at this stage, since we don't yet know the ins and outs of it all. Recent events show that being capsicum sprayed by Victorian police does not necessarily mean one is extremely violent. Even accounting for "his rather magnanimously (sic) huge size", in the (somewhat unfortunate) words of Senior Constable Wilson.

We'll keep you posted as the story develops.

*** UPDATE ***

As promised, the gory details of Wayne Carey's Port Melbourne incident (including security footage), shock revelations of last year's Miami incident and breaking news of drug allegations at Carey's celebrity party are all covered in the write-up.


Wikipedia article on Wayne Carey's career.

Melbourne Crime - Dossier on Wayne Carey
"Kangaroo Caught" (Bulletin, 20/3/2002)

"The Media and Women's Rights" (Green Left Weekly, 19/2/1996)

"The Carey Affair" (Sydney Morning Herald, 28/12/2002)

Wayne Carey Jokes

Wayne Carey Cartoons

"Wayne Carey: It's Over With Wife Sally" (Herald-Sun, 24/2/2006)

"Wayne Carey Retires" (7.30 Report, 24/6/2004)

"Young Talent In The Ranks" (AFL Player Spectator, 25/01/2005)

"Footy Thugs Cop Soft Sentence" (AFL Player Spectator, 13/2/2006)

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  • it's good to see this collection of dirt on the shameless disgrace that is the king. he's in good company, i can think of a few kings who have been so elevated by the community and media that they've thought they could get away with such behaviour. or is it that they were like that from the start? anyhow, i've long despised the man. it's a pity that his footy commentary is actually pretty good and i'm sure he's in the sights of the broadcasters for '07 onwards.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:02 pm, May 23, 2006  

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  • Thanks.

    I didn't realise his comments were okay. He got a sarcastic write-up at Crikey. Personally, I've never been able to get past that high-pitched soft-spoken voice of his. Damn annoying.

    But before he gets signed up, it's worth asking if any of the other commentators have attractive (to Wayne) wives. Which of the AFL callers have trophy wives? I'm guessing the former players would be a good starting point.

    By Blogger Greg, at 4:19 pm, May 23, 2006  

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  • I saw him kick 11 one day Greg. Tore the game to bits. Don't you just love footy, Greg? Let me guess? I bet you couldn't play for shit....still, at least you have your blog....

    Cheers Bazza

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:00 pm, May 24, 2006  

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  • Yeah, he's so good at footy it doesn't matter what else he does: he still deserves our respect.

    So 11 goals means you can cheat on your pregnant wife. How many goals before you get to bash or rape at will?

    Care to elaborate, Bazza?

    Nah, didn't think you'd thought this through ...

    By Blogger Greg, at 10:12 pm, May 24, 2006  

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    By Blogger Dominic X, at 4:55 pm, August 13, 2006  

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  • I think it is a bit of a cop out to dish out purely dirt in one article. A lot of geniuses have had multiple sexual interests. Don't come telling me the man is not a genius. To restrict the definition of genius to good use of numbers or brilliant oratory skills is ludicrous. Shane Warne is genius with the ball as Dickens was with the pen. Carey is likewise a genius and deserves similar accolades.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:56 pm, August 13, 2006  

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  • Although i agree that what Wayne Carey did was despicable, i find the general attitude you have towards footy players on this site is awful, there is no doubt that some players behave in a completly innapropriate manner, thats a given when you have that number of young blokes in the spotlight, but to tar them all with the same brush is even worse than idolising them as people purely on the basis of sporting ability. Its unfair to slag off the whole game and football community on the basis of a few dickheads. i wonder what happened to you to make you this bitter?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:28 pm, August 17, 2006  

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  • Thanks for writing in LindyLou.

    I'm glad we agree that Wayne Carey's behaviour is despicable.

    You may lower your standards for "young blokes in the spotlight" and tolerate a few bashings, rapes and so on, but not me. "Boys will be boys" is not doing anyone any favours.

    What you see as "slag[ging] off the whole game and football community on the basis of a few dickheads", I see as getting at the root of a widespread cultural problem.

    It's not just "a few dickheads". Dozens have been to court in the past couple of years. More have done stuff and avoided court. Even more have done stuff and had it hushed up through bribery and intimidation. Hell, people email me with incidents that don't make the papers or the police.

    Nice, respectful, decent, reasonable, law-abiding footballers are the exception, not the norm. However, those few are reluctant to stand up and call their dodgy teammates/colleagues dickheads. Why?

    Our footy culture is sick. The rest of society is mesmerised and people like you will make exceptions for them. Their coaches are powerless to discipline them. As a result, people get bashed and raped. The answer is more scrutiny of their behaviour.

    By Blogger Greg, at 1:51 pm, August 18, 2006  

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  • I agree that what wayne has and is doing is WRONG, but where do you get off bagging Kate out???? Jealous maybe?? She is gorgeous. I am sure most men wouldnt say NO (married or not)!!!

    By Blogger Amea, at 8:11 am, October 09, 2006  

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  • Amea, there's no accounting for taste. Like a jetski or a can of bourbon and coke, Kate's designed to appeal to bogans. If you're not a bogan, it's easy to resist her home-wrecking, tyre-holding, bleached-blonde, bogan-arousal techniques. There are plenty of attractive women who can fill out a bikini nicely. Most of us are interested in the nice, bright ones.

    I think Wayne - like most footballers - prefers young, dim, sexually-commercialised women because that's his comfort zone and reinforces his existing worldview.

    By Blogger Greg, at 11:59 am, October 09, 2006  

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  • what a piss poor slagging off on one off the games greatest ever players. like u your personal business is just that your personla business where as his is news for the entire country. its not as if half the men in the country havnt cheated on there wives or been with other peoples and im sure that there are alot of women out there doing the for the bogan meat as you classily put it well do you know the girl ? how can you judge her on a picture or article ?
    this goes to show you no nothing about everything and should shut the fuck up when it comes to talking or writing about people you dont know. lets hope you never post another blog ever again, as this one was the worst shit i have ever put my eyes to

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:32 pm, November 11, 2006  

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  • Hi Ben,

    Thanks for your sharing your thoughts. First off, I doubt half the men in Australia have cheated on their wives. But still, you've got to admit that cheating on your pregnant wife - again! - so spectacularly is a cause for some criticism. I think Wayne's erstwhile father-in-law Terry's attitude best sums it up.

    Secondly, I never called Ms Neilson "bogan meat". I called her "bogan bait". I did so solely on the basis of her elected profession: entering the Indy Car Grid Girl competition. I make no remarks about her general character or sexual mores. She could be a Rhodes Scholar and charity worker of the highest regard but if she makes money out of arousing bogans then that is an apt description.

    Clearly, criticism of your teenage hero is causing you angst and pain. Perhaps you should check out Speccy Sux where those who can't handle having their bubble burst can find some shared consolation.

    By Blogger Greg, at 9:15 pm, November 15, 2006  

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  • dear greg
    you were obviously one of those boys who at school was always picked last at team sports and the higher profile sports stars remind you of just how shit you really were at any sport.
    dont tell me that half the population would have never cheated on their partner because if you happened to ever go out instead of sitting at home in front of your pc looking at gay porn whilst sitting on a broomstick you would see that people every where are looking for that extra bit of what if wayne cheated on his pregnant wife who cares there are plenty of guys who walk out on there pregnant wives to but do you make that a highlight in your blog ??? no.
    like shane warne everything the king does is put into the public spotlight so as people who are lonely cronic masterbators like you can have have something to talk about in the chat rooms at 3 in the morning. maybe you would like to meet wayne himself and tell him your thoughts as it could be quite easily arranged, so until you meet any person in whom you wish to start publicly slagging off with out knowing them you should stick to what you know best and that is pretty much fuck all.
    all the best greg
    love and kisses
    ben .
    p.s doesnt it feeld wiered when you play with gerbils ????

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:29 pm, November 30, 2006  

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  • Yeah, thanks for the rant Ben. I think your psychological assumptions speak more about you and your suburban-and-coke mentality than me.

    More "dirt" (ie disturbing allegations of criminality) has surfaced about Woiyne Carey and his latest model in the Herald-Sun.

    By Blogger Greg, at 9:19 pm, December 28, 2006  

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  • Gee, I thought I was harsh ... but the Herald Sun takes the cake with this bitchy observation about Woiyne's Grid Girl Kate Neilson's new look:

    READERS have commented on the image make-over of former AFL player Wayne Carey's girlfriend Kate Neilson.

    Neilson has gone from brassy blonde to demure brunette, sparking comments that she is looking increasing like Carey's estranged wife, Sally.

    The couple, who hit the headlines recently when Neilson called 000 and later allegedly attended South Melbourne police station after allegedly being hit by Carey, spent New Year's Eve on the Gold Coast. Carey and Neilson later denied any incident occurred. (Hun, 7/12/2007)

    By Blogger Greg, at 8:00 pm, January 23, 2007  

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  • To the writer of this article, you are a genuine fuck head who has no clue about anything what so ever! Wayne Carey was a superstar and is a legend of the game. It is clear the reason you have decided to focus on his off field antics rather than his football talent is because you have always wanted your ass hole penetrated by the King's massive flesh rocket, and you're jealous he's not a poof like you! Shut up talking about footballers and ramming your opinions down others throats, stick to what you do best and keep filling your boyfriends mouth with your love juice! Eat shit Greg, you are a fuck-wit and should be shot!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:06 pm, February 22, 2007  

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  • I didn't really want to dignify this jealousy ridden tirade of bitter denunciation with a response but I'm just curious how many AFL players have been charged with rape? I can't think of any, and even if Carey did cheat on his wife he never raped anyone. I'm not sure weather you did say Carey raped anyone (I can't be bothered re-reading the tripe) but you certainly led the reader to believe that.

    Regarding all the other guys you're labelling as criminals, lets say there are 500 AFL footballers and a few of them have had some indiscretions with the law. Take 500 males at random from elsewhere aged between 18-25 and I'm sure just as many will have had some run ins with the law. Maybe 500 anti-social nerds who never leave the house won't put up the same results, but they may if they sometimes left their room and went out to have some fun. I know people who have been arrested for minor offenses while drunk and it is NOT A BIG DEAL. The media and people like you just blow it out of proportion.

    I know this is a cheap insult and I hate to use it, but you really do need to get a life, Greg.


    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:31 pm, March 15, 2007  

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  • blah blah ... jealous ... blah blah ... nerd ... blah blah ... get a life ... blah blah ...

    Yeah, Sim, I've heard it all before. So I'll cut to the substantive part of your comment:

    I have no view on whether or not Wayne Carey has been charged with rape. Certainly, he's pled guilty to an assault that was sexual in nature (grabbing breasts) but I haven't come across anything authorative about rape allegations.

    There's nothing in my article that states, refers or even hints about anything like that.

    For someone who admits to not having paid much attention while reading, your assessment doesn't count for too much.

    Secondly, I disagree that the criminality rate is the same amongst footballers as all "men 18-25". Maybe for "men, 18-25, six figure income, low education, media profile". But is that really the standard?

    I think we should hold them to a standard based on their esteem in society. These guys hold themselves up (or, more cynically, held up against their will) as role models. That's how they get their big money.

    So like it or not, if they want to make a living by having the community - especially kids - look up to them, then they must be held to a higher standard.

    If they don't like it, they can piss off to the country and suburban leagues which have a lower standard.

    By Blogger Greg, at 11:33 pm, March 15, 2007  

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  • For Kate - at a recent party - to approach one of the sponsors and say "Um, I'm Wayne Carey's girlfriend, do I get free shit?" says it all really.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:22 am, April 28, 2007  

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  • GOOD ON YA GREG! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK...some of the posts made against you, seem to be written by people with an IQ of a hamster.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:27 pm, June 03, 2007  

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  • Haha Whoever wrote this rubbish is a fucking fag who doesnt know a thing about what he is saying. u r a talentless hack of a reporter. i pray for your death.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:37 am, August 01, 2007  

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  • How dare you! I'm no reporter! That, my semi-literate friend, is a libel.

    Care to explain why you did a Google search on "Kate Neilson grid girl" at 12:30am? I hope you found that stimulating material you were looking for ... wanker.

    Too bad you didn't have the balls to leave your name: I like the idea of someone praying for my death and would have added your catchy line to my "Well Wishes" section.

    Anyway, doesn't matter since here's your IP address for the whole world to gaze at in wonder:

    Should be fairly easy for Telstra, the police etc to put a name to the address now.

    Pfft. "Reporter". How offensive.

    By Blogger Greg, at 1:10 am, August 01, 2007  

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  • Greg, i just think it is terriable the way you have ranted on about Carey.
    Yes you can express your opinon but dont you think you have taken it just a little to far?? From the way you are making Carey out to be.
    Have you only got your information from the media? Everyone knows you dont believe what the media have to say.
    Have you meet the King before? i am assuming No!
    I have i think he is a genuine nice bloke.
    And i am sure if you have meet him before you would say the same thing.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:42 am, October 06, 2007  

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  • It's worth taking a moment to ponder the asinine, sycophantic and hopelessly naive comments about Wayne Carey, in light of the latest round of scandalous blood-letting.

    From Bazza:

    I saw him kick 11 one day Greg. Tore the game to bits.

    From Anonymous:

    Carey is likewise a genius and deserves similar accolades.

    From Ben:

    what a piss poor slagging off on one off the games greatest ever players.

    From Anonymous:

    so what if wayne cheated on his pregnant wife who cares there are plenty of guys who walk out on there pregnant wives to

    From Anonymous:

    Wayne Carey was a superstar and is a legend of the game.

    From Anonymous:

    Have you meet the King before? i am assuming No! I have i think he is a genuine nice bloke. And i am sure if you have meet him before you would say the same thing.

    Notice a theme here? It seems the same basic equation holds throughout:

    If you're good enough on the field, you can do what you like off the field.

    This is exactly the kind of thing that Neil Mitchell is on about in his opinion piece. Let's hope he can put a firecracker up the arse of those bogans who condone and encourage the behaviour in thugs like Wayne.

    By Blogger Greg, at 12:49 am, January 31, 2008  

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  • Haven't visited in a while Greg, nice wrap up on the slime king Carey. Unlike a previous poster I actually read the piece and I can honestly say that I don't see any references or comments that led me to believe you accused the scum bag of rape. Perhaps the poster has some information to share about that? Surely he's not saying there has been some sort of financial arrangement made to ensure a victims silence? That doesn't happen in AFL does it? I'm sure an uncensored catalogue of Careys activities would make for an interesting (perhaps even shocking) read either way. Keep up the good work and don't let the dullards get to you.


    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:04 pm, February 08, 2008  

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  • What a disgrace!!!! The man should be remembered as the greatest footballer ever.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:51 pm, January 03, 2009  

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  • Look you nancyboys, I follow North Melbourne, not morals. Wayne Carey is nothing to me except a great footballer.
    How many people out there have had issues with the police?
    Maybe domestic violence?
    I`m sorry, but the man wasa champ!!!
    The best player I`ve seen i9n 35 years of constant membership

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:03 pm, January 03, 2009  

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  • I'm sure that Wayne Carey is a favourite pin-up poster boy for a number of fans. It should be remembered that he's also a woman-hating, violent drunk with self-confessed drug problems and anger issues. Please do not let the former excuse the latter. He is no idol.

    To help the slower readership work through this radical concept, here's a thought experiment. Based on past experience, how would you feel if your 19 year-old niece started dating Wayne Carey? Wouldn't you be worried about her getting wooed, promised the world, coked up, glassed and dragged through the media? Or would you be whooping it up and high-fiving everyone at your new-found proximity to greatness[*]? Exactly.

    He's a bad man and should be avoided, chastised, shunned and subject to the full force of the law.

    Please stop invoking his footy record as a justification for his personal behaviour.

    [*] Note: some football fans would be happy to subject their young female relatives to the predations of Wayne Carey solely for bragging rights. While such warped individuals may exist, they should be dobbed into Human Services.

    By Blogger Greg, at 12:41 am, January 04, 2009  

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  • Lol wtf is this why are you bagging one of the greatest to athletes to play in Australia. Hes 38 has still has time to redeem himself. He has made so many people happy over the years and converted the immigrant population to watch the game. If there was a vote to decide who would live between you or Carey the latter would win by a landslide because he has so much more to offer society through his football nous than you with your stupid useless blogs.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:13 pm, June 10, 2009  

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  • Here's something we agree on:

    If there was a vote to decide who would live between you or Carey the latter would win by a landslide

    Here's hoping that such a proposition is never put the popular vote.

    It seems you are upset by my criticism of this particular violent, drug-addled, woman-hating felon.

    Kind of sad that you're so emotionally invested in a washed-up has-been. Maybe it's time to take those posters down from your bedroom wall?

    By Blogger Greg, at 1:50 pm, June 11, 2009  

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  • Lol mate is that your rebuttal that if you such a vote never occurs and that he is a 'has been' when hes only 38? Lol mate its sadder that you didn't even defend yourself but i guess maybe you realised that your blogs are stupid eh? congratulations

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:56 pm, June 11, 2009  

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  • Oh, okay, I didn't realise you were actually looking for a debate - I took it as an emotional exercise in lashing out.

    Let me address each of your points:

    1) Why am I bagging "one of the greatest athletes"?

    When I wrote the original article, Carey was a violent, bad man who received very little criticism despite his bad attitude and criminality. So I wanted to even the ledger a little, pointing out his shortcomings.

    I was hoping that he might tone it down a bit and a few less kids would try to emulate him if more people called him on his behaviour.

    Since I wrote it, his bad actions have caught up with and the general public now appreciates that. He's been charged, convicted, sacked, shamed etc. On various continents. Good.

    2) Maybe he'll redeem himself. I doubt it. I don't think he should avoid scrutiny and criticism on the grounds that he might possibly at some point in the future maybe redeem himself.

    I say - criticise now and if he comes good, I'll congratulate him then. (I'm not holding my breath in the mean time.)

    3) You wrote: "He has made so many people happy over the years and converted the immigrant population to watch the game."

    Do you believe that people who provide sufficient entertainment to others are allowed to behave atrociously and avoid criticism?


    How many people do you have to make happy to be allowed to, say, bash someone up? Commit murder? Or rape?

    Would you say anyone who makes, say, a million people happy can break into your house and steal from you?

    Of course not. Your suggestion is silly and childish.

    4) Voting thing. I've already said I agree that I would lose the vote and hope it never eventuates.

    By Blogger Greg, at 3:15 pm, June 11, 2009  

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  • greg: the only thing you do is bag carey about what he did off the field. legends of the game arent made off the field they are made on it. not many people can kick 11 goals in a match and your certainly not one of them.while your blogging he just inducted into the hall of fame.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:40 pm, June 08, 2010  

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  • Shocking and inaccurate article with numerous factual errors. The writer sounds like a real nerd of a person and sees himself as the moral police. Worst article I've seen in years. Long live King Carey!

    By Anonymous Chris, at 1:15 am, August 16, 2013  

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